Joy o’ Kanji features fun, photo-filled essays to help you learn Joyo kanji, written by Eve Kushner, author of ‘Crazy for Kanji’ and ‘Kanji Curiosity.’. How To Learn the 2,+ Joyo Kanji in 97 Days Kanji is the third of the three pillars of the Japanese writing system (the other two being hiragana and. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it.

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That was likely me. The main thing that it did benefit me in was in learning new vocabulary.

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Depends on whether you’re assuming I’m a native English speaker, which I’m not, but I still see your point. I do stand in agreement kannji you that this is a practically useless way to learn kanji, and that many of them that I have learned through the book I have never seen in writing.

Archived from the original on 14 February The vast majority of what’s used is in the joyo list, purely due to frequency. Shit, I’m a dirty insert italian word for gaijin. Another reason to ignore the list. Don’t forget the Jinmeiyou Kanji for Names.

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Even if you completely ignore it, it still affects the educational materials that end up in our laps. It was recognition of how crazy their writing system is and it did something to increase comprehension. Of course, the Joyo list isn’t a literal book, but the idea of maintaining a “critical” vocabulary still applies.

I mean as far as I know about a of the Joyo Kanji are obscure anyways, so I don’t even know. I did however read in some article that starting with this reform they will be revising kanji policies more often in reaction to the quick pace of change of kanji usage in the information age. So I stopped learning from it. You can find the analysis at this site http: Submit joyi new link.


I remember reading a while back someone saying that the only non-Joyo kanji they’ve seen was an archaic Kanji for radiation I think they were a nuclear engineer or something similliar. Most of kanii come with furigana but I still need to look them up, after learning them I have noticed that I am progressing much faster through each volume. If you are new to learning Japanese, read the Starter’s Guide. Content creators wishing to advertise must contact the mods first.

Damn, how long have you been studying and how long have you been living in Japan? By the way, what was the compound for radiation that you saw?

Jōyō kanji

So far I have read 10 volumes of Kino no Kanjii and I am now at volume 2 of Ookami to Koushinryou to improve my reading skills. There are tons and tons of non-jouyous that are common. LearnJapanese subscribe unsubscribereaders users here now New to Japanese? And as for Japanese schools, the kanji they TEACH in classes are the jouyou I thinkbut the students are exposed to way more kanji not on the list through things like required book readings, and studying specialized subjects where rarer kanji are used.

I would rather compare the Joyo list to jooy like an “abridged” pocket English dictionary. Joyo isn’t a strict definition of everything used in Japan, but neither is it “only for government documents” or whatever.

I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names. Personally, I think we would have been better off without the damn list in the first place.

Knowing Radicals can remove a lot of the difficulty of leaning kanji. Discussion from pretty long ago. Every word that is forced into obscurity just because it includes a kanji that is not on the jouyou list is a loss for the Japanese language. That was the first time I even saw a non Joyo Kanji referred to Although I bet that I’ve seen hundreds without knowing and it made me think that non Joyo is some sort of wasteland of thousands of archaic characters.


I would’ve said macaroni was the original spelling. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. The list is not a comprehensive list of all characters and readings in regular use; rather, it is kanui as a literacy baseline for those who have completed compulsory education, as well as a list of permitted characters and readings for use in official government documents.

From time to time some of them pop-up with their regular meaning too.

I could care less what they do with the jouyou kanji list. Log in or sign up in seconds. I’m not sure where you got that from. That doesn’t really explain much, I already knew that by your old comment that I read which gave me this idea in the first place.

Think about your own English education. If anything, the digital age has probably brought far more Kanji into common usage since you really don’t have to know them by heart to write them anymore. It’s hard to say exactly why some Kanji were kept off the list. Try to disconnect loanwords from their counterparts in the original language.

LearnJapanese submitted 1 year ago by Floppuh. It also was a way to keep my memorizing skills sharp by memorizing random things I would never need to know.